Sub 9 Hour Journey

Fred Wright - 2021 U23 British Road Champ

Ethan Haytor - 2021 and 2022 national TT champ
2021 national crit champ
2018 team pursuit World Champ , 2021 Ominum World Champ , 2018 Omnium European Champ
GC Tour of Norway, 2021 and Tour of Poland 2022

Leo 2021 and 22 U23 TT champ and 2022 baby Giro GC

Too many junior titles to show :rofl:

I guess they train smart for kids :wink:

That is actually much worse than Barca, which is saying something. At Barca you could apply the brakes to drop behind the massive pelotons, but that looks like a worse pain in the rectal area.

Almost glad I didn’t go. Almost.

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To be fair to the Race, they were forced to postpone tge Saturday event 24hrs which meant they had 2 races worth of athletes riding together Sunday, some 5000 athletes on a 90k lap. Impossible but better than having your race cancelled

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I’ve been doing some stalking trying to determine my estimated Kona Time

Strangely the athlete that I am closest to in terms of performance is Laurent Jallobert. In Nice we had identical swim time and were pretty close on the run… he just happens to be rather fast on the bike. If I look at his other races, I see similar times on Swim and run to me. On the bike Jallobert was 25 mins faster than me in Nice. In Kona 2019 he did a 4:45 bike, so I would expect 5:30.

My estimate is therefore 1:12 swim, 5:30 bike, 3:20 run, add 13 for Transition would give me 10h15m which would put me around 35th place

I think that 2019 was pretty typical conditions, so if it is ā€œnormalā€ that would be a good target

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Probably depends how juiced up he is :rage:

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I guess you know jalaberts sport history? He’s not unbeatable mate. He had a shocker in Utah

Did you see that Scott whittlestone went 8:52 in Italy on Sunday :scream:

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Yeah I saw Jalabert’s time in Utah, not sure why he is off form, he had a great 2019 winning 70.3 WC and 2nd in Kona in his AG - possibly better legal supplements because I would never suggest that he was taking EPO or any other banned substances. Maybe he is just getting Old. I think that this is his last year in 50-54, next year Vinokurov will be back in my AG: nothing to see there either.

If I went Sub 9 in Italy last weekend, I am not sure how I would feel about it. Similar to my 9:11 on the 2021 Roth short course. 10km short in Roth is probably similar time to mega draft in Italy

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Vino won my AG in 2019 with a 4:21 bike split :rofl:

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sub9, too!!!
I was expecting like a 4hr marathon, but he’s got a 3:12 :open_mouth:

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I recon Vino and Jalabert get tested at events, trouble is I don’t think that there is any out of event testing in Ironman

Vinokurov, I’ve seen him ride past me in Copenhagen before. #notnormal. He fell of my radar but I guess he’s still racing then?

Jalabert went on to win in Copenhagen this year with 8:5x we came into T2 although he’d already got onto the run whilst I was making my ā€˜i’ve got a poorly Achilles’ excuses. I’d say he’s back on form.

Sorry I assumed he was in Kona, but he’s not. Looks like Portugal is next for him

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:rofl:

NOBODY gets tested at events.
It affects the bottom line, so they simply don’t do it.

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You’ll be quicker than 5:30 on the bike. Underselling yourself there

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What I have been doing differently this year is a significant number of 150km+ rides, in last 5 months 5 * 130-180km, 2 * 270km, 1 * 350km maintaining a constant 210 - 220w NP. My Plan in Kona is to do somewhere around 230w NP. Even if it’s blisteringly hot, I know 220w won’t be an issue. As long as I get hydration right, I will have plenty left for a good run.

BikeBestSplit predicts 5h20m mins @218w NP with 30kph avg wind. If I could do that I would be more than happy

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Matt is good and trains a lot, let’s give him the benefit of the doubt, at least for now. :rofl:

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The sad thing is we know he’s clean but some won’t be.

That is sadder than a sad man on sad day being sad in sadchester.

Risking your health and blatantly cheating just for a few more mins and age group placings.

I probably know 15? Maybe 20 people, two are girls, that obviously take steroids, I respect the ones that admit it and look down my nose on the ones that deny it to the death, yes mate those 20ā€ arms are god given!

4 are competitive body builders, pretty pointless without juice, they all train for the mirror and hey ho if that’s what you like.

It’s rare in this game and rightly so.

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I have strong suspicions with a few triathletes I know who looked ā€˜suddenly athletic’ this summer. Both 55+. I won’t ask. No good can come of it. Hopefully I’m wrong and the fact they train less than me is unrelated.

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It’s rare still in tri, but it happens.

55! Jesus

Just why….!

I suspect two people, one is a friend, the other one got remarkably faster in his late 30ā€s after ten years of ā€œ good ā€œ results.

Unless they get caught, highly unlikely, we will never know

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I know one person, went to 70.3 world champs. I think that its pretty common

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Probably my only way of completing an IM in any level of comfort anymore

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