- Triswim shampoo.
- Never had that, cant help.
- Moisturiser
- Caffeine
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Caffeine in the afternoon? 
Any old shite? Or some magical swimmers ointment made from the tears of dolphins?
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Before 2 pm shouldnt effect your sleep. I know what you mean though, swimming used to make me tired.
Yeah any old crap for moisturiser. I used to use the E45 body stuff. The other thing is to really wash the chlorine off well. Not just a quick dip under the shower.
That could definitely be a factor, I haven’t got much time to fuck about. Rinse in the trunks and get going.
Yeah I used to do that because I had to get to work. I was getting dry itchy skin and when I googled and asked a few said to really scrub the chlorine off and it definitely made a difference.
My eyes get really dry.
I did a hard 50 today, 42 seconds, fml I’m crap, needed oxygen after 
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I get dry itchy skin from swimming. To sort it I shower with an emolleant or aveeno and then moisturise. I use one of the baby lotion ones that doesn’t smell strongly.
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Are you men or mice, dry skin is a sign of toughness. Moisturiser FFS 
E45 works well. El Niño used to really suffer, galas are the worst where you are in and out multiple times a day with no real showering. The metal tubes of thicker stuff if you are really bad in specific places
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Im a man. But im confident in my own masculinity that I can put some cream on my delicate dry skin.
I lift heavy things to over compensate.
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We swim, bike & run around in lycra with shaved legs. Butch left a long time ago
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Swim cap 
Who can swim without an Ironman TM cap anyway? 
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We had some discussions about swim times with & without wetsuit. With the lake being 25 degrees it’s deffo an opportunity for skins & I can say I’m basically 2 minutes slower on the 800m lap without the wetsuit. 13:50 ish vs 15:45. Feels so much harder too, I’m only good for one all out lap in skins & can squeeze out 2 in the wetsuit.
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That pretty much correlates with my times too. I always reckon I’m a minute slower over a 400m lap.
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@speedoswimmer once of these parts did some testing back in the day helix, mid range like a speedo, skins on different levels of swimmers. Exact times evade me but mid range suit on an average AOS was something like 12-15sec / 100 over skins. Helix was slower but on good swimmer helix was best but only about 7sec / 100 over skins.
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As I’ve got some time to work on my stroke, what drills for the catch (or in general) would you suggest?
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I think I’m going to join a local club or masters group from September.
I think my swim speed has hit a plateau and I don’t think the answer is to just swim more on my own and think I’m going to magically find some free speed.
Couple of local clubs swim out of the same pool a few evenings a week and timing wise they’re after the kids bedtime so could potentially work out.
Hopefully I can raise my game by swimming with stronger people and get some advice on technique etc from learned eyes
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Swim focus, slow deliberate swimming at 45-50 spm just thinking about entry with limited turbulence / bubbles and getting that high elbow EVF before adding pressure on water. Could do things like zipper to slow you down and concentrate on entry. Doggy paddle is also pretty good as a drill for this. Could use fins and front snorkel could help to isolate and aid your ability to watch your arm enter and catch / pull
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With the Outlaw done, I am really eager to keep training and want to get back to improving my swim. Going back to the nuggets in the TT1.0 thread 100m v 1500m (or something like that) I am going to look to get my 400m time below 6 mins. Plan is to do sessions focused on sprints, holding best pace across 50m repeats, same for 100m repeats, a longer sub-threshold swim and then if I can get some short lunchtime swims, I will keep them as steady continuous simply because I enjoy it. To start with it will be simply about moving faster through the water with plenty of rest. Drills after warmup will be a mix of 0 arm-full, doggy paddle, slow DPS strokes, short sprints.
Feel free to comment and/or rip my plan apart.
I haven’t done a 400m TT for a long time but in training for the outlaw my 400m repeats were 7:5x and last week I did a fast (for me) but cruisey 100m in 1:32.
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A guy in my lane yesterday was wearing bouancy shorts and using a pull bouy 
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