Virtual Zwift Rides

Might just be an under/over session I quite often use the Alpe for that, bad luck if you get that really long section as the over…

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Ah yeah, I got 2x power-ups today :upside_down_face: (aero & feather). I’ve only noticed them recently, and not in events using the Alpe.

Anyone see the results of the zwift tri series? Just saw something on Tim Don’s insta where he’d screenshotted part of the ride and there were a bunch of decent names on there.

Haven’t seen any of the athletes I follow posting a result though

On the zwift YouTube page. Didn’t watch this week’s. Have watched a number of the others: https://youtu.be/11b31ISrmA4

Spoiler: today's results

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When I first started Zwift my sustained effort (20min+ P) was a little better than it is now. I was regularly around 4.5-4.9wkg for a race. But training predominantly for Zwift racing I started to develop the old fast twitch and you can see last 6-12months how much my 15s/30s/1min have improved. In fact I think my personal records for these were all during the lockdown.
I did do a bit of T&F and squash back in the day, even when doing IM and DIM training. I could run 200m in 26s at that time despite doing IM. So always had a quick turnover, and turn of power for v short periods of time.
I’m not sure if it’s this background, the Zwift adaption, or both that has helped me get a punch and sprint in zwift racing.
However, despite the sprint improving, my sustained effort has dropped a little. I do more micro rests (downhill tucks, 2-5s pauses in a fast blob) which will drop the overall av a little, but not by much.
Also, even though I can go 14-15wkg for 15s in a group ride and 13-14wkg in a race, there are still guys out there going that effort for 1min or 18wkg for 15s. And that’s on top of Av 5.5wkg+

One thing I would recommend is spending more time out of the saddle. I used to watch a guy called Leandro Messineo, who does a lot of streaming of his races. He’s out of the saddle a lot. Remember, there’s no wind resistance on your turbo trainer, so if you like getting out of the saddle for a muscle breather and to use your weight a little more on the pedal, then do it!

Great presentation. They have distance to go and blank out other riders, something a lot of the general broadcasts can’t/won’t do.

They messed up the commentating at the end of the women’s race. “250 metres to go” as the winner crossed the line, then a nervous silence as they realised they had no idea the ordering. You have to get the end of a race right. I mean, come on, that is the climax of the entire race. Hopefully they learn that the commentators need to know the finish line ahead of time.

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Did my first Alpe climb last night. Averaged 248w, so I deduct from that I’m much heavier than Jorgan as I rolled in a little under 1:02.

I had a couple of drop outs on the Kickr (which seems to be becoming a habit) early on so switched to the P2M. Interestingly in previous tests I felt the P2M readings were a little lower, but my power increased significantly on the second half of the climb (like 225w compared to 275w). I think some element of this was me being cautious at the start, but this there must be some PM drift involved.

One slightly annoying thing, ZwiftPower hasn’t recorded my Alpe time against the event I did (it seems to only have time fors about half the riders). Any idea why that would be? The forum won’t let me post a link but the last part is: events.php?zid=865187
I did wonder if it was because I’m only level 7 and technically not high enough level to go and ride the route by myself, but clicking on some of the other riders without times, they are much high levels.

PS Got the gloves :frowning:

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That’s been the case with every single week I watched. The commentators, and even the on screen graphics, are totally wrong. It’s why I’ve largely given up watching. As you say, the end is the climax of what you’ve been watching, and the bit they need to get right.

I’m hoping if this TdF on zwift thing is accurate, then that’s why there have been no improvements on this front at all in the last few months, and they’re focusing all their attention on one big broadcasting update that will fix all these things for viewers.

Only need to be level 6 now

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So this is getting annoying now. And I don’t know what I can do about it. Something has changed in my building that is meaning all the signals from my sensors (power meter, HRM, trainer) are getting blocked. This is happening on my laptop, my Garmin, my phone, everything.

Last night I was completely unable to undertake a trainerroad workout. I had to do it manually, and I was still having big gaps in sensor data.

Today, it happened on zwift as well. Fine for 18 minutes into a TT, and then bang, complete dropouts of data repeatedly until the end of the ride.

It’s clearly part of a wider problem, as the companion app now wont connect either. I’ve checked all the usual things, uninstalled and reinstalled, and it just wont recognise I’m in the game.

Is there anything anyone else has found that can try and resolve these kind of issues? I changed the power meter battery Tuesday, so it’s not that. And up until this week, I’d had at most one or two data interference issues per trainerroad ride, and only twice in 3 months had zwift properly dropped out. But those times had been ant+ adaptor failures, where until I restarted the laptop it wouldnt pick up anything at all, compared to this which is clearly an interference issue. I already bought a usb extension cable to get the ant+ adaptor nearer the power meter and trainer, but I’m not sure if that’s even making things worse.

Up until the dropout, I was close to setting a 20min PB. As it was, I did 282w according to training peaks, compared to a best of 287w. And that’s with 21s of zero data from the 18 minute mark. According to trainerroad I set all time bests between durations of 11:10 to 18:25. Frustrating.

I’ve been having some drop outs… the power doesn’t quite go to zero but its enough of a drop to send me 100 places back through a pack.
Used to get it even worse on prev flux and now on H3. Wife now on flux - never gets it.
Only difference in out kit is laptop - and mine should be the better.
The one thing I’ve read this week and I’m going to try later is that Ant+ can struggle if there’s too much data. So I’m going to split what I connect on Ant+ and what I connect on bluetooth . No idea if it will help -but it makes some logical sense.

OK, might try that. Just have the power meter via ant+ (as I have no other option).

Mine are proper prolonged dropouts. Take this section:


Nearly 30s of zero data in little over a minute … the longest being 18s of zeros. Power and cadence (come from the same ant+ feed) are the yellow and white lines.

I think the issues I was having with dropouts was caused by too much going on, I’d got Flux/HRM/iPad/phone all going at the same time, took the phone out of the equation (only using the companion app) and all seems to run ok, prior to using the HRM and didn’t have any drops at all i.e . just the three flux/pad/phone

Could be entirely coincidental of course.

Anything else changed recently? Added a new screwfix fan to the party?

I know the pain. My flux drop outs could last minutes. Sat there in races watching all the people you’ve passed in the last hour to come flying by.
Im praying I don’t get one later on this TTT - as I’ll be shot out the back like one of MarkieRs friends!

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I blamed my Mrs for my dropouts - she walked back in after an hour of no drop outs and I had 5 in the next 10 mins.
Time I’d got off I’d had about 14 in total - she then informed me she’d turned her phone off after my whinge - well it ruled it out at least :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Pretty much any electrical item could be causing interference, other devices trying to use wifi (bluetooth, ant+ and wifi all operate at 2.4GHz), if you have a devices trying to connect it can hog the frequency range. Also, microwave ovens emit 2.4GHz if they leak. Anything with an electric motor, especially older items, so fans, heaters, vacuum cleaners can interfere.

Too many devices shouldn’t be an issue unless they are trying to connect. Once connected they should all be allocated their own channel. Just a reminder bluetooth devices can only be connected to one master unit.

Absolutely this for me in the past.

Worst one was a fan on the same circuit. It would kill the signal. Moved the fan to another plug point with a long extension cable, and connection has been flawless since. Also seen it with other electronics in the past, but not recently.

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Could you you have too many ANT+ signals? I noticed in the past that having the power meter, the direct drive and hr all on ANT+ would screw things up as Zwift would switch over to the strongest signal. I now keep everything on BLE and switch everything else off and haven’t suffered since. The companion app is interesting as it has to be ( or used to be?)on the same WiFi as Zwift to pick up the connection .

Yesh, it does. And that’s what’s confusing me even more. And the issue has aligned with my problems getting seriously bad.

I always used to have the odd issue connecting the companion, but it was often because I have a split 2.4Ghz/5Ghz router, and sometimes my laptop would be connected to one and the mobile the other. But even ensuring these match now isn’t allowing the companion to connect