I agree with @Bob
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Sure I can list the things that are known to affect sleep quality. But that would be kinda pointless. Sure you can wear a gadget that tells you you’re not doing the things that improve your sleep quality. But that seems kinda pointless too 
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Some people like data. Some people don’t. Everyone has the right to choose. Does it mean one is wrong and one is right - no.
People use what they want to get through life 
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This is my point though. Wearing a sleep device isn’t going to resolve the problem. If anything it’ll increase anxiety and potentially make your sleep worse.
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I love data. But like I said, I’m intrigued by what use it is in this instance.
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The sleep tracking in isolation is of limited use, as you say. You probably know if you slept well, and know why or how to improve that.
It’s just another datapoint for Garmin to measure your overall recovery and freshness state to adapt their recommended training plan. You had disturbed sleep, your HRV is elevated, we will swap your hard training session for an easy one. Again, something you could probably decide for yourself, and arguably relying on data to decide how rested you are is a poor substitute for understanding how you feel yourself, but it’s the way things are moving.
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Yep, that’s a great reason and fully understand the benefits there. I was just struggling with the “improve sleep” use case.
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One thing I noticed last week was that my Enduro 2 didn’t change timezones automatically. I haven’t been abroad since 2018 in Portugal but I know my old 935 did it back then.
I have ‘GPS Sync’ enabled. Is it a different setting that I haven’t switched on?
Might have missed this - but not sure where this is from. Are you interpreting it as the sleep monitor improves your sleep? Which isn’t the case.
Receiving data and learning what’s good and bad for you is the part that improves the data. For me personally, I gained the knowledge about just how much late evening exercise impacts me and the effort of that exercise. But also late meals.
I know that seems obvious to some but not everyone is that in tune to their bodies. And yes, I did change or adjust things to limit the impact of those 2 things.
Also, not everyone is well informed and educated or well read on health and wellness topics. I expect you’ll be one of the most well-informed. Many other people’s understanding of their body is that they need to breathe, eat and sleep and everything else is a magical mystery tour.
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I’m with @Bob in that I don’t see the point of using something like this but if people want to “embrace” such things then fairy nuff.
I know or not if I’ve slept well - been enough times around the sun to understand me. And I’m not sure how data sets cope with a bloody dog waking you at 2am (yesterday) or 4:30am (this morning) ‘cos he wanted a dump.
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Pretty much the same for me (minus the dog bit!). I never wear mine at night.
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I also agree with @Bob that it sucks to wear a watch at night. Although the whoop band seems less like a watch, and a little more like that tag you have to wear for 12 months after a misunderstanding with the criminal justice system or something
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I was interpreting it as people purchasing them to improve their sleep - I wasn’t suggesting just wearing improves sleep.
I’m not anti - don’t tell @Doonhamer but I do wear a watch in bed - but I was just intrigued by what people did with the data. I didn’t understand how some metrics in the morning confirming you slept poorly is helpful. If you’re waking up unrefreshed you either have medical problems or need to make some lifestyle changes. @buzz’s point is them most compelling for me as to the usefulness.
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If its connected to your phone via BT then my experience is it should adjust as soon as your phone connects to local cell towers and knows to change thr time.
If you’re not connected to a phone with signal, then you would need to trigger the watch to adjust by getting a GPS signal lock
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cheers mate, that may have been the issue. My phone did work on wifi for Garmin Connect etc at the apartment, we didn’t use data out and about and when I came back to UK, I did have to pair it again.
I’m looking to upgrade from my FR945
Was going to go for the 970, but the Venu x1 is pulling me towards it.
Eyesight without my glasses is shit.
My Apple Watch is tiny as well.
X1 has a HUGE display
Only downsides I gleaned from DCR was battery life,
no ECG and no dual band GPS (which he said wasn’t really an issue)
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My eyesight isn’t great but the 965 is really good, but will admit depending on what glasses I have on I do sometimes have to look under the glasses.
Me: I slept most of the night 
Garmin: yeah but it was crap quality though 
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Hey all, do trail runs count for run vo2 calculations?
I seem to recall they fixed this a while back but I’m not sure.
I hope so - pretty much all of my runs are trail