The first one was okay, but lacked 3G / 4G and the App Store was poor.
When version 3 came out, it was like
All versions since then have been
With the shoes, the VF4% were
Then the Next% were
Alphas were also although perhaps even more marmite?
From looking at these, they’ve gone back to a FlyKnit upper But have adopted that “chunky” sole from the latest Alphas. Looking at them, they’re immediately different to the current iteration, which I’d suggest is worth a version number increment
Finally, stack height is over 40mm. So no use for triathlons
Ahhh didn’t realise triathlon had also banned these.
There’s no way Nike will have gone over the 40 mm limit? They pretty much got the rule written around them. Adidas made a specific edition of theres with 50 mm that were known illegal but I’ve never seen any in the wild
I’ve got three pairs of barely used >£200 shoes and no room left for any more pairs.
So I doubt it.
Got some Zipp 303s to buy next.
And maybe a trip to Girona
@joex / @itom150 - I saw that a while back (the list) and also assumed they were the next wave of super shoes. But then “The Internet” says this;
According to Nike, the Vaporfly 3 weighs 198g (6.9 oz) for a US Men’s Size 10 (165g (5.8 oz), Women’s 8). The heel-to-forefoot offset is 8mm with the stack height arriving at over 40mm. Furthermore, the rubber traction underneath the forefoot has been reportedly shaved down 2mm. Wear-testers, however, haven’t reported durability issues with the change.
Following on from my 4% shedding excess weight, I’m looking at shoe deals and thinking of buying more shoes….but I hardly run in them all.
Do they deteriorate over time when left alone in an uninsulated garage?
I want to buy the bargain Pegasus Trail, but I don’t need them I just want them. And my Kiger 7 are in many ways my favourite shoe.
I have Pegasus and Miler, and an old Miler I use for not running. I’ve got a yearning for another pair of Milers, and maybe Infinity or Invincible?
I’m still using my delapidated 4%. And I have my VF2…but I have my eye out for a bargain Alpha.
I never had this problem with bikes. I still use my 2014 roadie which should’ve been binned in 2018.
So, my thinking is - I can buy these additional shoes and keep them in a cupboard until I actually need them…but do shoes just come
unglued sitting around doing nothing?
I’ve got about 4 pairs in boxes in the house and a few more in the loft I’ve forgotten about
The damp garage might be a problem unless they are in a bag or box but I’ve not had problems with any I’ve used, might shorten their life but my lack of cleaning them etc. is probably worse, particularly my fell\trail shoes, I probably go through more pairs of them.
I’ve said before the T2’s are my goto shoe now for most trails and I think GB like his as well.
My Kiger 7s were my most used shoe last year and they still look great. Problem is my club runs in summer rarely announce whether the route is trail or road before hand - they expect everyone to tramp around in the only shoes they own. Kiger’s are a bit too hard for an hour on pavement, and Pegasus get ruined on some of the trails….so there is some legitimacy to my desire for the Trail Pegasus: elimate the pre club run stress.
I’m trying to use Vaporfly for my long runs and speed sessions for their leg protection value, as per Matt’s advice.
That leaves Milers for the short and easy, and Pegasus for the progression/tempo/strides work.
Yes. But we’re talking decades here, not the time frame I assume you’re talking about.
Don’t buy them, then.
What’s that, like 30 weeks of 40km running, so you already have enough shoes, therefore they probably won’t get used
I’ve got the Terra Kiger 6 (£53) and hate them.
SlippyAF on tarmac and wet rocks, so awful on the trail and tarmac - although they were good for harder surface XC runs.
They’re now dog walking shoes.
Salomon Speedcross GTX - also crap. Heavy, inflexible, odd lacing.
They’re now muddier dog walks and hiking shoes now.
Here’s my current shoe list, I bought the Saucony Meta June 2022, Streakfly in March 2022, Alphas in April 2021, Next% Jan 2021, 4% March 2019.
I tend to run in either my Pegasus 37 or Pegasus 36 Shield (if it’s wet/dark)
EDIT: FWIW, I tend to get 800-1200km out of my shoes. Generally, I feel the midsole “go” after about 400-600km (I know that, as my arches ache after a jog, something which doesn’t happen in newer pairs) then the foam starts to “flatten” and the shoes feel “dead” shortly after (let’s say 600-800km). Finally, the upper goes - a few slight rips/tears from all of the movement.
Generally, for non-race type shoes, the sole is fine
Suspect I have a few more kicking around, but these are all my “in use” running shoes
Favourites are my Tempo Next - they have done over 1200k and still in great shape. Use them for trails as well as tarmac. Not as fast as Vaporfly, but faster than Pegasus
I’m staying out of this conversation.
Ok here is my Nike collection. Recent additions thanks to a £250 Nike gift card from the sales guys at work (bribe)
But have adopted that “chunky” sole from the latest Alphas. Looking at them, they’re immediately different to the current iteration, which I’d suggest is worth a version number increment 
