Nike Zoom Fly/Vaporfly 4 and NEXT% - The Thread

my n=1 experience is that yes they are more durable.

My current pair have lasted 4 years and I have used them for most tris and road running events in that time, plus quite a few faster training runs. Don’t know the kilometerage exactly but doubt it’s below 1000

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I’d agree. They’re deffo no less durable than normal shoes.

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They have an air pod which can pop, which happened on my first pair which didn’t have huge mileage. Edit to add that was V1. But I guess any with a pod have that risk.

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Just ordered some Alphaflys from Achilles Heel (think that’s the shops name). 199.50 and they seem to have all sizes in stock

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Tested them out this evening, feel absolutely lush - springy, light & they fit perfectly.

Cots will only be their second run, to hopefully ward off blisters planning to wear socks + tie up laces rather than barefoot and elastic.

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Hmm, watch Ben Parkes Nike shoe review - Vaporfly’s no longer durable enough/designed for marathons. Pegasus a waste of time.

I’m never paying £200 for a marathon shoe myself, so I might need to start the journey to another brand. My VF2s good enough this year but likely to fall apart next year from age rather than use I think.

I agree the new VF4 is a short course shoe but there are plenty of bargains to be had for stocking up with the VF3. Depending on your size Sportspursuit have them for £143. They are my go to race shoe

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I now have a pair of both vaporflys and Alphaflys on the go. Guess it’s a personal thing, but prefer the AFs for all distances, just don’t seem to get the same bouncy energy return from the VFs

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I’ve moved onto Adidas and Puma. I think there are much better shoes than Nikes offerings these days!

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Completely agree. Seems the other companies have not only caught up but moved on.

I’ve gone back to Brooks. Their range of non race shoes has vastly improved!

The other companies don’t have mammoth sales though. Right!?

I was never a huge fan of the AF2 as a race shoe, I felt that the AF1 was faster. However, over a year ago I relegated my AF2 to my training shoe. As a training shoe they are far more robust than the AF1, they are also much more stable. My AF2 are in the office, so I went running on Sunday in my Pegasus - probably 4 or 5 years old, but not massive mileage, my feet and legs felt battered after running in them

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not seen the review but my Marathon PB was in VF4 and done a few runs in it since? Not seen it fall apart yet and im 80kg so not a featherlight

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For the gym crowd, anyone had any experiences of the Metcon?

Wot, this fella?

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The METCON is not displeased with a 00:39:55 Kona swim leg.

:alien:

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Personally I’m not a fan. If you ever have to ANY running in them, they are terrible. I’d look at Adidas Dropset, RADs, There are quite a few other shoes out now. Even from the likes of TYR and Velites but I don’t have much experience with them

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Knowing your pedigree of running, you will not be heel striking in the VF4s? I am using them upto 10km racing at the mo but you certainly know when you land need first instead of the midfoot.

Maybe. I’m not a text book runner, having started running in my 20’s from a non-athletic background but I do enough mileage fast enough and consistently that it must not be terrible.

The video review talks about ‘elite’ runners getting away with it for marathons but what even are they calling elite? Sub-3? Sub-2:20? What about people who are slower but have ‘classic text book form’ or fast runners with more unsightly running styles (and theres plenty!)

slightly ironically I watched some of the ESAA finals over the weekend and remember the senior girls 3000. Two of them sat on the front for 5 or so laps with really fluid running motion looking like they had the most ‘running skill’ of the lot by some margin. At which point the girl in 3rd without much fuss for the rest of the race went alongside then smashed the race open at 600 m winning by a clear margin.

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