Nike Zoom Fly/Vaporfly 4 and NEXT% - The Thread

I used my Next% on run 2 of an off road Duathlon last week it made a big difference as it was mostly fire road. Took a chance but I came away with the 2nd fastest run of the day.
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Article in today’s Times with a lad saying his Nike’s “helped” him take an hour of his marathon pb! :rofl:

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So as expected lots of people with the trampolines on today, saw one bloke rinsing his in the sink after, I think mine probably held a bit more water.

He also said the main thing he liked about them was how fresh the legs feel after, definitely the case for me as well, unless I didn’t try hard enough!

Jeff

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I have never to the Falklands, but way more greenery than the barren lands of Lanza, more like a steeper hilled New Zealand and that is saying something.

Back to “the” shoes, I purposefully don’t always run in mine at the 2 regular 5k’s I run as I like to think I am getting circa 30 seconds more aerobic conditioning by running that 30 seconds longer. 1 minute a week, I reckon that adds up over time! (+ I am a tight arse who still cant believe that I spent that much on trainers in the first place)

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Has anyone tried the Zoom Fly 3? I’ve located a pair in my size at a #killa price

I bought a pair. Definitely half a size bigger than the 4% and zoom fly flyknit. Also seemed notably heavier. Was gonna exchange them for the smaller size but in the end wasn’t impressed enough by my first impressions and just got the refund so never got to actually run in them.

Well, seller accepted an offer of £55, so for that I’m sure they’ll do the trick!

Tried out my 4% on the treadmill at lunchtime for my tempo run. Placebo? Well it felt easier, and my heart rate was lower. For a tempo run, I was at the upper end of nosebreathing pace - breathing in 3/4 steps, out 3/4 steps.

They did feel odd to begin with, can’t really describe it but felt like easy cruising between 10k and half pace.

I will now return them to their sealed vault until I fancy chancing them on a long run.

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Not sure if the Daily Hail is a factual source but… https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-7887859/Nike-Vaporfly-running-shoe-used-Brigid-Kosgei-smash-Paula-Radcliffe-record-set-BANNED.html?ITO=applenews

Oh well, just fall back on the doping then.

I haven’t used mine yet, so all my world records and prize money are safe, phew! :sweat_smile:

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Blimey. The Sun and The Times also reporting the same:


Interesting that records set using them before the ban will be allowed to stand. So at least my pb is officially safe! What will be interesting is whether they ban them outright, or just at the elite level. Golf for example has a number of restrictions that apply for pros but amateurs can still use them. Are race organisers really going to start policing the shoes that amateurs use?

And of course we’ll likely be ok for triathlon. Almost certainly Ironman at the very least, where bikes not allowed in ITU/BTF sanctioned events are ok under WTC rules.

Surely this would be logistically impossible. Some races have thousands of participants - you’d never be able to check all of those. Maybe just at the pointy end/AG winners? I don’t know.

Just cover them in gaffa tape :laughing:

Exactly, which is why I think they’ll just ban them for Elites.

As successful as banning headphones at most races! :rofl:

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Following internet protocol of replying without reading the links, but I was under the impression that the ban would be for the AlphaFly Kipchoge used, but that Kosgei used the Next% and they would escape the ban. I know Kosgei made some confusing comments at the time about using the same shoes as Kipchoge had used the day before, but she seemed to be running in the pink shoes.

Some suggestion that the elites are getting custom Next% with the carbon plate tuned to their biomechanics, but outwardly the shoes look the same. If they do ban the Next%, I suspect Nike will discontinue them, and return to the 4% and innovate from there.

It’s sad times.
Like those on here who’ve used them, they seem
To protect your legs, you feel fresher.
So they maybe (?) prevent injuries (?) …

…ruling bodies generally seem a bit backwards to me :speak_no_evil:

Can’t see how it’s much different to the claims Adidas made with the boost’s a few years ago, they didn’t have quite the same impact but I think there’s a bit of assistance.

A lot of big companies will have done fast R&D to catch up with Nike and I doubt they’ll be happy if it goes straight down the pan.

The best bet would be to set boundaries such as sole height and let them innovate, or make everyone wear plimsoles :rofl:

As above, I think this will only apply to elites in big competitions.

Jeff

Joex, be careful on the long run, a few people find there soleus really tight after a long run or race so if nothing else try stretching them after, or do a longish run first.

Jeff

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