Nice one, this thread just prompted me to stock up on some stuff.
Got some 1500 tablets and electrolyte capsules on their way 
Are these good? Presumably help stave off cramp when itās hot.
Iāll report back, Iāve never tried them.
My plan is to carry them in my bento box, take one every hour or so then only pick up water from the Bolton aid stations. They have Gatorade as their nutrition supplier this year and Iām not keen on trying it. They also advertise that they come in sports style bottle and not proper bidons, so another reason to avoid I think.
This is along side taking carbs on in the form of bars and chews etcā¦
Will test them on my remaining long rides and see how I get on
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That was my tactic at the mara last year. I had Maurten gels to fuel, so no electrolyte. Took a tablet every 10km or so I think and took water at the aid stations.
Cramped with 2km to go. But I think that may have been muscle related not hydration/electrolyte.
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I bought one of these for E24
https://www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/product/sense-pro-21.html
And two of these
https://www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/product/sflask-250-8-std-28.html#color=38880
You can barely feel itās there and very easy to get the bottles in and out. Iām only using one bottle at a time and then swapping at laps but Iāve had both and in its very comfortable IMO
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Didnāt someone on here post something about ā#TheScienceā saying lack of electrolytes are not the cause of cramping, much to the dismay of electrolyte marketeers the nation over?
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yep, although āthe scienceā is unable to prove extensively much about cramp at all as its hard to cause in a lab in a controlled test. Itās believed to be due to muscular fatigue, a lack of hydration could increase that, and sometimes people donāt drink enough. You get the n=1 ābut i started drinking extreme wind electrolyte + and my cramps went awayā, well maybe water could have had the same effect, or maybe you slowed down whilst drinking and because you had cramp and allowed the muscles to start working effectively again. I have heard that electrolytes help with the uptake of carbohydrate but Iām no āscientistā so cant tell you if thatās 100% true. simple fact is as Noakes has proven, what you sweat out in salt is far less than what the body needs, you are thirsty because of an increase in salt > water in the body not because you have more water > salt so you may actually be slowing the bodies need to balance the 2. Dioralyte is the same, and is used when you are at risk of proper dehydration due to sickness, no one ever died from dehydration in a single day sporting event according to Noakes. That said I use SIS Go , but because i like it as an energy drink as its weaker than most.
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IIRC it is fatigue of the neuromuscular junction that then leads to a spinal reflex causing the muscle to involuntarily contract. One study showed that pickle juice relieved the cramps within seconds, which is why some sell it. It is obviously full of salts but in reality in the time it took to relieve the symptoms it could barely have reached the stomach never mind the blood. So the effect of this was placebo.
Instead of stretching the cramping muscle or drinking salts a quick spinal manipulation at the relevant level to modulate neural activity is probably the best thing.
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As someone who cramp waddled the final 5 miles of a marathon, Iām keen to try anything which means I donāt have to go through that again.
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Easiest thing would be not to enter another marathon
Your welcome 
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My welcome what?
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I think maybe @Poet explains best how TriTalk has built on and improved the various rules of English grammar over the years:
Maybe i hang around here too much, as have genuinely started to think this way sometimes 
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Iāve just been trying to be less vanilla so my forum designation is changed. No matter how controversial I try, itās just never enough.
YAG
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Iām keen to try this Mountain Fuel stuff I have but was always looking at Spring Gels because a lot of folks rave about them but FMD, over Ā£3ea!
Blast, I want to try this today but looks like Iāve already ruled it out.
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This is for tubes and canisters:
Stupid?
Itās a top tube bag upside down, Velcro holds it on and things inside. Small things would fall out so Iād wrap them first.
I would t want to hit a bump and find the bag emptying itās contents everywhere!
I use an Xlab rear aero pouch that sits around the bts bottle - added bonus that it makes the gage grip really secure too
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Would it fit at the back of the top tube, up against the seat post, if it wonāt go at the front?
If youāre only using it for spares you donāt need access on the hoof.
Not so well and Iām thinking it may rub my legs there.