Running Shoes

@Doonhamer - it was the Peg Turbos I returned. @apm also had issues with them.

I also return the new AlphaFly 3, as they’re just overpriced at £50-£60 more than the Vaporfly 3, which I also have and really really like (as it’s quite similar to the original FlyKnit. I think!)

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Work buy your trainers ?!
That almost makes me wish I had a job … almost !
He’s a 17 min 5 k runner and these are his “best “ shoes but he has some hoka carbons which look huge stack wise and I think they might be faster ?!

Are they a nightmare to get on for a 5 k run in a tri/ duathlon
I’m not really bothered about just running races ?

Just bought a pair of Vomeros in the Nike sale. Hopefully better than the Peg 40’s….

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Just had my first run in ASICS Kayano 28s which included a few digs…lush for this old fella’s legs.

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Does anyone have experience with custom insoles?

Worthwhile investment? Snake oil? Somewhere inbetween?

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Not a personal recommendation but a couple of friends have had them in the past and said they were very good.

I was going to get some earlier this year until the guy had a bad skiing accident and I haven’t rearranged now he’s back working.

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I’d probably be tempted to give them a miss if they cause bad skiing accidents. I’m guessing that may be transferable to other accidents?

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It really depends what you need them for and what they aim to do

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Don’t you get hard ones and soft ones?

I had an insole customised for cycling which helped an issue but it was mor a case of adding some ‘cant’ in the heel.

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For running, no.

Running shoe salesmen are the only people to recommend them in my experience, and they seem to recommend them to everyone even minor pronation. In that situation, snake oil.

I’m sure there are actual physical/medical situations where they are required but I wouldn’t know what they are. My son was given insoles for walking (medical reasons) but ten years later I still can’t tell if that was bullshit.

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The GF has some but not for running, they seem to work well for her but a lot of her problems were more likely related to her RA.

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Good question.

In short, I know there are deficiencies with my running gate which can’t necessarily be sorted by strength work, running shoe type, etc etc.

I’m not expecting a golden bullet, but if it helps then it’s another piece of the puzzle in place.

Honestly, the way it’s looking, I’m 1 or 2 injuries away from knocking running on the head for good. I’ve had so many soleus tears in both legs to last a lifetime. IT bands horrendous. Pelvis slightly out of place.

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@explorerJC, welcome your opinion on this matters though.

Thoughts?

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Again, it depends on what you think the problem is and what you hope the insoles will do.

Certainly, even off the shelf ones do ‘something’ and that change can often buy the runner some time with the adapted form masking the historic symptoms

Torn soleus is slightly worrying. Especially depending on whether the tears were acute or chronic. It can be very exposed to changes if form. And you may have some residual weakness after the tears. Always worth lots of post injury massage to reduce the scar tissue followed by S&C - don’t underestimate the value, especially with the soleus. Ease into plyometrics too.

If mobility and appropriate conditioning are in place, with sensible progressions and good form then the next thing to consider are the big four.

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That’s how it’s played out. Seemingly lots of small incremental improvements instead of a big change. Oddly, aside from my calves (and IT bands, which I think are part of the same issue) I’m relatively robust injury wise.

After every tear I’ve done something different. This time was to purposefully do bent leg calf raises in the gym every week. I’ve stayed true to that.

I’ll go for the insoles. If they make a marginal difference then it’s still a step in the right direction.

Besides, without running, I might have to take up drinking.

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Difference to what?

What are you hoping they will do?

Reduce the risk of injury?

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Biomechanically…

or are they to absorb impact…if so, buy a pair of sorbothane (if you can still get them)

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I used them a lot back in the day. I was getting a pain in my ankle and the physio said I had the flattest feet he had ever seen and sent me to a podiatrist. The made my up custom foam insoles. I did a lot of running in them and they worked and the ankle pain was gone forever. Cost about £100 and need replacing probably every 2-3 pairs of trainers. They did do much longer lasting ones for £300 but I never had them.

Only problem I found with them was when they were new I would get big blisters on my arches while I broke them in

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Thanks mate, that’s really helpful too.