Training - What Training?!

55 minutes of S&C at 05:30 this morning.

Rowing: 4K steady, 2x0.5k harder and finally1k flat out.

Followed by barbell thrusters, shoulder press and side crunches.

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Decided to make myself accountable and start adding my training here.

4 Mile run this morning, average 10.35 mm and 142 hr.

Probably the fastest run since popping my calf again last June.

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Windy on my run this morning - first mile was 40 seconds slower than normal
HR strap needs batteries

6.34 miles
47:28 / 7:29 mile pace

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tough rowing session this morning

2km warm up

then sequential 1500, 1250, 1000, 750, 500, 250 with 2 mins between but at high SPM starting around 25/26 for 1500 and increasing for each with time dropping by 2 secs each time. so 250 was balls out 32 SPM. aerobically challenging when you’re used to long steady rows - more like a race

2km warm down

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My garmin is now showing me ā€œUnproductiveā€, due to the fact my ā€œrunningā€ vo2max has dropped from 63 to 62, it had only gone up to 63 'cos I ran the 5km on new years day. It’s completely ignoring the cycling going up from 58 to 66 in the same time, this should probably be on the rant thread for it being so unhelpful to anyone who actually wanted to train on these numbers.

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Mine thinks I’ve retired :slightly_frowning_face: I’ve been detraining for weeks and my estimated 5K is 24:16 and getting slower :flushed:

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Mine predicted a 2:36 marathon time :rofl::rofl:

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Garmin connect doesn’t appear to reward indoor rides with any training effect either. Absolutely no idea why?

It’s like a boomerang mate, it’ll come back :+1:

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I read about this the other day… you need both HR and Power connected directed to Garmin (going via zwift doesnt work). Seems to be a quirk with indoor rides :man_shrugging:

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Cool. That’s weird that they do that.

So you record your ride on your edge etc and upload that!

Yes, that’s annoying too - FirstBeat do a reasonably good job of estimating VO2max, but then Garmin goes and equates that VO2max with the time the most efficient runner could achieve, because most people are well below the most efficient runners it becomes garbage. It’s annoying a bit 'cos it has the data for the pace at various points on first beats estimate so could give a better one, but just does the simplisitic which is almost guaranteed to be wrong.

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Yeah either dual connect to both garmin and zwift… or If you have additional power meters can point them in different directions (I havent bothered - have enough technical issues as it is)

Why would you not be doing that anyway? The zwift file goes nowhere near garmin connect - and how would you record the second power meter?

I just ask my legs, and they tell me if i’m training a lot or not.

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I don’t - Zwift straight feed from PM and HRM. Then i must have clicked on something somewhere as it uploads from Zwift onto Strava, TrainingPeaks and GC. No idea if it’s impacting my VO2 max score on GC or not though. Can’t think how i’d know.

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In GC, you look at training status, VO2max, 4week, every place there’s a little blob it’s calculated one, if it hasn’t calculated one when you’re zwifting, then it’s not doing it.

Training status needs HRV, which is I imagine why it’s not there with simply linked activities.

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Are people that bothered about what Garmin says about training to double upload things?
I keep meaning to turn off that annoying ā€œrecoveryā€ function on my Garmin. It vibrates during a run and I think it’s a Km being ticked off.

I have one source of the truth, which is TP.
The rest is a consequence of feeding into that.

My watch and phone feeds my sleep and HRV into TP.
Then GC (not Gemma Collins, although that would be hilarious) pushes everything to Strava.
And TP pulls from Strava.
Anything that doesn’t work, I’ve got an app to manually do it, without resorting to working with .FIT files and cables on the laptop.

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I can’t be bothered to record and save both Zwift and a separate device.

GC should be able to see my heart rate and power readings. I ultimately don’t care as @gingerbongo and @Poet say you can see it in TP anyway. Just a shame that their system is flawed

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to be fair, i don’t even pay attention, in so much as i don’t amend my behaviour as a result, to TP. I just like looking at what i’ve done. the pretty graphs and how it stacks over the course of a year or so.

Maybe if/when i ever get back to training properly i’ll use it a little more scientifically. But for the last few years, doing my long trail ultras i just train on feel.

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