Virtual Zwift Rides

For what? What’s the end goal with working on that weakness?
I have zero clue on where that is useful in a triathlon, or a TT?
Generally, you can let the group go on the first 5 laps up that hill, and you catch them back up as they’re recovering on that downhill street part, before the rollers. Best power up is probably the feather, then just wait to deploy it there each lap.

That course is great, last lap some people always charge down the rollers after the hill and screech round that U-Bend at some unknown warp speed!!!

For your race, there is ZERO chance the winner was 50kg :rofl:
Pretty weak sprints at the end for the win there :wink:

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I was seeing it as a Z4/5 interval type workout to help with increased strength resulting in a higher power output as well as lactate clearing at high intensity. Hoping that that, along with over unders/sweetspot etc will elevate my FTP.

Happy to be corrected here though.

They are also just quite fun as well. Makes me feel a bit trashed like iu’ve had a really good workout, but it’s only 30 mins, and the legs recover much quicker than they would running for instance.

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November '20, when I was racing loads of crits at >300W for 22 minutes, I was loving the racing, but it really did naff all for my TTing.
In fact, my TT was worse in 2021 than it was in 2019.

For me, I’d say you’re (and by that, I mean me too!) aren’t going low enough in those crit races to clear any lactate accumulated.
I’d also say those crit races aren’t really Z4/Z5, they’re far more like Z3, as they’re generally raced at 105% of FTP.
Your VI for that one was ~1.00, AP of 277W, NP of 278W

Your 5m and 1m power were about the same as the 20m one.
20-25% over for your 30s and 15s power.

Power curve is also pretty flat.

But I concede that they’re fun, just I am unsure on the benefits of them…

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Even when you have to race this bloke :sob:

We are all wired differently but I can never understand the mentality of people like this?

Good luck those ZRL’ing.

Hoping to get back on bike for first time since before Christmas and see if the back will allow me to join in again soon.

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What?
Same in triathlon, isn’t it.

I lost an AG win at Outlaw to a (then) recent ex-pro.
No point crying over it.

Well - Im not entirely convinced by his profile. None of his results are confirmed; so there’s a serious shadow of doubt. Apparently theres a trick to keep certain data private - which means his power numbers are never accurate and it’ll help prevent him being upgraded.
But IRL or zwift - is anyone that consistent? Doesn’t quite add up to me.

Still - hes in my race tomorrow :worried:

Think this is what the ‘sticky watts’ riders do as their power graphs make it very obvious what they are up to.

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I’m lost :man_shrugging:t4:
Could you explain what you mean?
Spell it out for me.

From his recent races’ power curve graph, he’s deffo a “sticky watts” rider.
He’s smashing out the watts for 1-3s then making them stick there for another 9-7s.
There’s zero chance anyone’s power curve can be flat like that.

This is exactly why I don’t get too caught up being catfished on zwift. Whether someone has a dodgy turbo giving them free watts or slashing 20kgs off their weight, Meh, it’s just a bit of fun.

I’ll doff my cap to anyone who motors past me on the bike after T1 though!

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I tend to just show my ass crack to anyone who passes me :rofl:

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Oi oi :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Fair points.
I’d say i was working a bit harder than those figures suggest, as my FTP is no way 277 at the moment. My ZP estimate of 264 is probably much more accurate. Though admitedly we’re only talking a few watts here and there.

I’ll take those points into consideration though. Maybe race for fun now, whilst it’s not going to be of any real detriment, and then dial back on this type of race when i get into my final 12 week block of specificity.

I want to have a slightly higher than last year FTP going into Cots, maybe a kilo or so lighter and then with the new bike. Hoping that translates to a slightly quicker bike and a much better run.

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What is ‘sticky watts’?

Do they set-up a long average watts readout on their PM and sit there doing mini intervals ad-infinitum?

Ok my initial comment was somewhat tongue in cheek “it won’t be fun when this guy - who wins literally ever race he does - beats me”. Tho in reality - I suspect a shed load of people will beat me tomorrow; but I’ll still bust my gut, with a new team and have fun along the way.

But… his profile doesn’t add up. To re-iterate - he wins almost every race. You only need the wrong power up, a badly timed effort, a few people working for each other and races go south. Joys of zwift; lots of unknown variables.
Then the cloud and dagger stuff- his power numbers on his races are “average” at best. They haven’t been finalised (when the green electric tick goes blue). Rumour has it its a sand bagging trick.
I mean I don’t even know how you do that - and I live in ZP land.

It was pointed out he only does well in mass start events - as he always stays with the As (hmm funny that) - where as not a single other B rider does. Further suggestion he’s in the wrong cat.

But I ain’t gonna lose any sleep over it :nerd_face:

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Cloak and dagger :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

What’s this “final” results?
Green/blue trick? I’ve not seen that!

Who pointed it out?
Your new team on Facebook/WhatsApp etc?

@jorgan - Nah, just for the final sprint :wink: or to keep up with the bunch.

Its on ZP; so for me
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Once my whatever final file has been processed by ZP - the electric bolt was green, goes blue. That’s normally the same time it shows me how awesome my sprint was :wink: as that’s one of the last things to get updated.

Well - the chap himself posted on the WTRL facebook pages (as he’s streaming tomorrows race - he doesnt win WTRL races mind!!) so that just led to a bit of clicking through on the competition.

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Well, he’s in the wrong Category yes; unless he’s all about the ego, also possible.

But this is how big guys get to stay in Cat B or C; they are heavy and produce big watts, but not enough to put them over the 95% FTP category threshold. If there was actual gravity in Zwift, most of them would get dropped on anything but the shorter ramps out on the courses. Once they get gapped i.e. no draft, their size would inhibit their ability to chase back on aerodynamically (unless they claim to be 160cm)

This also works inversely.

Where you have units like me who can contort our relatively larger mass into a tiny aerodynamic package.

You then have the 60-70kg frogs leg, rubber band arms cyclists who literally cannot sit still on a bike outside and create more turbulence than (I can’t think of a similie got this!)