I guess the optimum distance & gradient is a very personal thing, often wandered if steep or shallow climbs would be easier, at least on Zwift you don’t have to worry about losing concentration descending when tired.
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It sounds like one of the inner circles of Hell
So @mw22 - you actually did it already??? 
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v.Everest - yeah last Dec with the same group.
I’d done a couple of halfs and went sub 5 on one. Finished really well.
Full was a different beast, set off slower - halfway was around 5:30 but I started to struggle much earlier than expected. Dropped from climbing at 3wkg down to just over 2.
Grade much better for me… 18-20 min up, 3 min recovery.
Alp doing 60 up, 10 recovery just was wrong on both sides.
So had been curious about bologna being shorter again. See how we go. Only planning on half tho.
Wife did 17 alps for the double in 21 hours 30 if you want some annoying comparison 
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Wow, think I missed that. Crazy beans, great effort.
Your wife… double crazy beans
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Ventop last week
“im going so slow”
“im never doing an everest PB on this”
4 hours later. 4:28 half everest PB and beat my ventop time on every rep. Trez annoying.
Bologna will be a grind.
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You can count me out. I got bored after 1 hour of Ven Top last week and turned around.
I have reached Level 100 now though 
ironically by XP obtained during a 70 mile IRL gravel ride
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I’m up to level 113 now.
I’m liking the accelerated accumulation of XPs - 20,000 XPs was taking nearly a month to finish a level but at the moment it’s about a week and a half
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Not seeing you guys signed up yet for tomorrows Bologna fest? Staying off the radar till last minute I assume so they cant see the competition.
There’s now an early 7am slot if you want a head start 
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Yeah, fruity is staying off the radar until 5 minutes before it starts as well
I’ve been asked to help at the parkrun so sadly can’t make 
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And indeed for the whole day…
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Urgh much harder than expected.
Only managed 15 reps for 3000m. On pace but hip pain and mental demons just not making it enjoyable.
Found it harder than the grade, esp the minute less on the descent to get food in.
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I reckon fruity must be still on with this as he’s been fairly quiet today 
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Yes still going strong here 
Obviously I’m lying, Mrs turned my Zwift subscription off in May and says I can have it back when it starts raining
Good effort @mw22 although “harder than expected” makes me wonder what your expectations might have been, everything about it sounded hard to me 
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Its quite laughable… they want to flag this. Yet join the Sunday WOW ride and week in week out you have an ego ride leader who’s constantly shutting other riders down with aggressive remarks often full of expletives. He barely lasted 10 mins the other week before he started his tirade.
They seem happy to shadow ban randoms for off the cuff comments like you posted - but happily let the real issues (as in that ride leader, or frankly the creepy DMs that seem to flood female riders inboxes like the wife gets) go without any consequence.
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I never saw the other rider make a comment, pretty sure his only offence was riding in front of the fence (which this leader doesn’t like to be use).
Anyone comments negatively and it gets toxic immediately.
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Nice!
Do they not run an active fence that ejects any flyers after 60 seconds?
Some of the other leaders in the same group do - and yes its auto.
But he wants to run it without a fence (I’ve no idea why)… one of leaders in my club does run a fence then gets wound up if anyone goes near it.
If I lead, I’ll tell them fence is on and it will eject them. Then leave it at that. Their choice.
He’s the worst I’ve come across… so its annoying its a good session 
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Yeah, I always run the fence at 5 seconds when I’m leading the Gain Train rides on a Thursday night, but I rarely have problems with flyers.
I don’t know why you wouldn’t use the fence if you want to control the pace?
As long as you can ride at the advertised pace, I don’t see why anyone would object to the fence
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Well there in lies my 2nd issue with this particular lead. I find his pace erratic.
Esp when he takes the C group - he’s forever shooting through the pack. He also targets speed rather than power. So then people comment and he flies off. So many egos on zwift tho.
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